Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby mtwentz » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:28 am

madeleineferguson wrote:Just watched Season 1, Episode 2. What if Carrie Page is Laura's cousin? 25 years past, it seems obvious TMFAP is talking about Maddy Ferguson. However, since the dream takes place 25 years in the future... the obvious cousin would be Carrie Page.

Why would her cousin hear Sarah's voice?
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby madeleineferguson » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:46 am

mtwentz wrote:
madeleineferguson wrote:Just watched Season 1, Episode 2. What if Carrie Page is Laura's cousin? 25 years past, it seems obvious TMFAP is talking about Maddy Ferguson. However, since the dream takes place 25 years in the future... the obvious cousin would be Carrie Page.

Why would her cousin hear Sarah's voice?


No idea! "But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby mtwentz » Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:51 pm

madeleineferguson wrote:
mtwentz wrote:
madeleineferguson wrote:Just watched Season 1, Episode 2. What if Carrie Page is Laura's cousin? 25 years past, it seems obvious TMFAP is talking about Maddy Ferguson. However, since the dream takes place 25 years in the future... the obvious cousin would be Carrie Page.

Why would her cousin hear Sarah's voice?


No idea! "But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"


Part 18 is so open-ended, any interpretation is possible.

But that being said, I think the strongest evidence is that Carrie Paige is 'some version' of Laura Palmer.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby krishnanspace » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:57 pm

mtwentz wrote:
madeleineferguson wrote:
mtwentz wrote:Why would her cousin hear Sarah's voice?


No idea! "But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"


Part 18 is so open-ended, any interpretation is possible.

But that being said, I think the strongest evidence is that Carrie Paige is 'some version' of Laura Palmer.

Agreed.It almost felt like a prologue to a new Chapter in Twin Peaks
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Jonah » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:41 pm

I haven't posted here in almost a year! I really hated this episode when I first saw it, having mostly liked Part 17. I recently rewatched both of the last two Parts (planning to rewatch the whole revival soon) and I've warmed a little to Part 18. I think it's well shot and eerie. I still think it's a bit disappointing that more things weren't resolved (but, come on, who was I kidding? This is Lynch!), but it's better than I remember it being. I hope they do Season 4, though, and pick up directly from here. I'm not really expecting answers if they do, but I think it would be fascinating to see Cooper and Laura (aka Carrie Page) check in to The Great Northern and start exploring the town of Twin Peaks, past present future and alternative world, together, in search of answers.

A couple of points I noticed on the rewatch - According to Google, it takes 28 hours to drive from Odessa to Washington. It didn't seem like they were driving that long. Maybe 12 hours, but definitely not a day and a bit. They never stopped to sleep and we saw it go from day to dark, but not day again. Was that Ronette's bridge they drove through when they reached the town or just a bridge that looks like it? Interesting that it never showed them passing the Welcome to Twin Peaks sign (maybe it doesn't exist in this version of the town, or in this year...though the RR does).
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Jerry Horne » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:07 pm

But missing the RR2GO part.

Not Ronette's bridge. That bridge is close to the 4 way intersection where Richard runs over the kid.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby naked bat » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:13 am

Whenever I think about S3 (which is almost every day), there are several scenes that come to my mind: Coop and the fireman, the mauve room, Senorita Dido and the last scene. This one is especially haunting, even now.

To me, the Return is an incredible achievement because it's one of those rare piece of art that still haunt me long after having watched it.

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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby eyeboogers » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:38 am

[quote="Jonah"Interesting that it never showed them passing the Welcome to Twin Peaks sign (maybe it doesn't exist in this version of the town, or in this year...though the RR does).[/quote]

They showed us the RR which could simply be the Mar T café, they showed us the Palmer house, just as it looks in real life, and the door was opened by it's current real life owner. However her name was Alice Tremond. Even though the conclusion of the scene seems to be that the characters did not cross over into "our" world, I do think those images were meant to tease us that it could be what was happening, until the eventual illusion shattering scream.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby ThumbsUp » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:03 pm

So is the general consensus that Richard and Carrie ended up in "our" world?

I'm not saying they realize they are (or were) characters in a TV show, but maybe the existential horror they exhibit in the very last scene suggests they're realizing they're not in their "correct" universe as their "correct" selves? And earlier when Cooper's face looks directly at the audience telling us they live inside a dream, they're breaking the fourth wall and more or less setting up Part 18?

Head. Hurts. For me the entire season is Lynch and Frost criticizing TV revivals and how you can never recapture nostalgia and Richard/Coop and Carrie/Laura themselves as characters in a TV show realize this in the last scene.

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