"¢ First, when Devon goes to investigate the sound, down at the end of the hallway or alley, at the end, we see the repeating street in Poland, the one just down the way. After the Dern death scene, before which we have seen all the Polish material, we return to Kingsley making his movie. So all that Polish part is seen, in this way, as part of Kingsley's movie, even though, seen through the silk, it is from a parallel universe, or the parallel universe of someone else's perception etc.
this brings me to the fact that i think the polish scenes are not the unfinished 4/7 film(which most probably would have been german by the hint kingsley drops)
I hadn't noticed that, but it is a point that does seem to clarify those scenes somewhat.
"¢ Next, about Ormond in the police station. The entire film is structured around yesterday-today-tomorrow. "What time is it?" is a joke to the Rabbits' audience. Visitor #1 says she can't tell today from yesterday from two days from now, and tells Nikki that if it was tomorrow she would be sitting over there. Then there is the rehearsal scene which is observed by Dern's character in the future, then related to Theroux's character in bed as a scene we did yesterday but I know it's tomorrow. Well, the police station scene seems just like that to me. She is there in the present talking about the future when she will stab someone but we can see that she has just been stabbed in the past. What I'm getting at is that I don't think anything will be gained by thinking of this scene as a depiction of some one thing happening in time. So in a way it is unlike our own way of experiencing reality but then again it is just like it too, because in each present moment, unless we turn them off through meditation, the past is always there as memory and the future as speculation.
"¢ I should add also that another thing that Kiddo said that went some way toward convincing me when I thought about it afterward is that the murdered woman with the gut is played by an uncredited actress. There was a lot of controversy over which of the two brunette actresses played her, but it makes as much sense to think it was someone else. More in fact, because the "Who is she?" about her would require that a different actress play her part. In other words, I think she is (at least) one of the other main characters in the story but played by someone else so that we can discover her identity through the way the story goes, rather than by who plays her. And for the same reason, TWIW, the other "Who is she?" character, may be played by Gruszka or Ormond, even though she may be neither of their other main characters. Her back is turned specifically so that we can't know who played her part for sure, and it tends to match both Gruszka greeting Dern at the end and Ormond walking down Ivar Street at the end of MTTH.
"¢ For a long time, I believed that because the record player was seen first, that it was a sort of umbrella layer of the story within which everything else occurs. Then I noticed that when it recurs later, Lost Girl is watching it on TV.
and as for the woman in the background being lanni, those caps are a good arguement. there are definte similarities to them. but at the same time, a couple of differences, which may be attributed to the digital quality of the film. im going to have to mull that over...
I'm comparing this scene to what happens before and after on Hollywood Blvd. This is a mirror in the other universe of what happens there, though a little different. Ormond walks down Ivar Street from the north. Yet, we see her peeking out behind a tree from both the north and sound sides of Hwd. Blvd. (Once with a plain building side behind her and once with the ATM machine behind her that she passes after stabbing Dern's character. So she is on both sides of the street just as Nikki is, laughing at her frightened self. We see her crossing the street, yet, when she comes after Dern she has not crossed the street but is simply walking down the north side of Hwd. Blvd. from west to east after she turned left off of Ivar. So in the picture, all three women look the same to me, though I too can't tell exactly in the dark and I'm not that good on faces anyway. I don't think Lori and Lani are played by twin actresses, but whoever that is there looks the same to me. Anyway, the point for me is that someone who looks something like that is seen both behind and in front of Gruszka.